HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS

Nightbird · 07-22-2008, 12:00 AM

I would like to recommend to everyone here to please, under no circumstance should you pay any chinese suppliers that you do not already know and trust with Western Union, Money Gram or Bank Transfer. This is because there is ABSOLUTELY NO RECOURSE to get your money back from scammers if you pay them this way. And THIS IS WHY these chinese suppliers like to be payed this way, because they know that if any problems arise or if they are out to cheat you, there is no way for you to get your money back..no way, no how, don't even think about it. The law works differently in china than it does here, and the law enforcement their cannot do anything themselves about this because they know the problem is too huge.

ALWAYS USE PAYPAL with your credit card to pay anyone in china or anywhere else in the world you don't know and trust. Why? Because with your credit card backing up your payment, you can very easily and quickly get your money back by simply calling your credit card company, telling them what happened, and then requesting a CHARGEBACK. A chargeback means the credit card company will credit your account for the charge, and that's the end of the story. You do not get charged anything for this service, it is part of your credit card agreement to protect you.

This is why UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I pay a supplier in china or anywhere else by anything other than a credit card through Paypal. And these scammers will try to lure you into paying them unsafely by offering you lower prices, better shipping, etc... BUT DON'T FALL FOR IT! I know most of us here are just trying to become sellers on ebay and other places and trying to make an honest living selling items, but these scammers in china and elsewhere HAVE NO HEARTS, AND THEY PREY ON OUR WANT AND NEED FOR PRODUCTS TO SELL. They tap into your weakness, desperation, want and need for cheap items to sell for profit, and this is where you must not let your feelings of possible profit overtake you and make you pay them unsafely.

Please also remember that Tradekey is filled with legitimate suppliers from china and elsewhere who do accept Paypal and are honest. Simply put into the Tradekey search box "Paypal Accept" and you will see page after page of Paypal accepting suppliers who understand we customers deserve a safe way to pay them.

So to recap, NEVER pay any supplier unsafely without a credit card through Paypal, not even for "small" test orders. I keep saying Paypal because I know of no other service that you can use your credit card with that doesn't charge your credit card as a cash advance, such as western union does, which means you have NO PROTECTION. This is why I always use Paypal, even though I'm not thrilled about Paypals service...still it's better than nothing due to being able to do a chargeback -never count on Paypal to get your money back because many times they cannot as they rely on whatever the scammer has in their Paypal account to give to you, and that usually means there is no money to pay you back, so always always call your credit card company for a chargeback in case of a problem, forget calling Paypal. And absolutely NEVER give your credit card number to a supplier, this is just asking for trouble!

Good luck to you all, and I hope this helped you!

Postman · 07-22-2008, 12:21 AM

possibly the best advice yet I have heard on wld.

07-22-2008, 02:12 AM

you simply CANNOT use western union for any business deal I agree.

90% or more are just frauds.

If the bank or credit card company is not involved, then avoid at ALL times.

07-22-2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightbird

I would like to recommend to everyone here to please, under no circumstance should you pay any chinese suppliers that you do not already know and trust with Western Union, Money Gram or Bank Transfer. This is because there is ABSOLUTELY NO RECOURSE to get your money back from scammers if you pay them this way. And THIS IS WHY these chinese suppliers like to be payed this way, because they know that if any problems arise or if they are out to cheat you, there is no way for you to get your money back..no way, no how, don't even think about it. The law works differently in china than it does here, and the law enforcement their cannot do anything themselves about this because they know the problem is too huge.

ALWAYS USE PAYPAL with your credit card to pay anyone in china or anywhere else in the world you don't know and trust. Why? Because with your credit card backing up your payment, you can very easily and quickly get your money back by simply calling your credit card company, telling them what happened, and then requesting a CHARGEBACK. A chargeback means the credit card company will credit your account for the charge, and that's the end of the story. You do not get charged anything for this service, it is part of your credit card agreement to protect you.

This is why UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I pay a supplier in china or anywhere else by anything other than a credit card through Paypal. And these scammers will try to lure you into paying them unsafely by offering you lower prices, better shipping, etc... BUT DON'T FALL FOR IT! I know most of us here are just trying to become sellers on ebay and other places and trying to make an honest living selling items, but these scammers in china and elsewhere HAVE NO HEARTS, AND THEY PREY ON OUR WANT AND NEED FOR PRODUCTS TO SELL. They tap into your weakness, desperation, want and need for cheap items to sell for profit, and this is where you must not let your feelings of possible profit overtake you and make you pay them unsafely.

Please also remember that Tradekey is filled with legitimate suppliers from china and elsewhere who do accept Paypal and are honest. Simply put into the Tradekey search box "Paypal Accept" and you will see page after page of Paypal accepting suppliers who understand we customers deserve a safe way to pay them.

So to recap, NEVER pay any supplier unsafely without a credit card through Paypal, not even for "small" test orders. I keep saying Paypal because I know of no other service that you can use your credit card with that doesn't charge your credit card as a cash advance, such as western union does, which means you have NO PROTECTION. This is why I always use Paypal, even though I'm not thrilled about Paypals service...still it's better than nothing due to being able to do a chargeback -never count on Paypal to get your money back because many times they cannot as they rely on whatever the scammer has in their Paypal account to give to you, and that usually means there is no money to pay you back, so always always call your credit card company for a chargeback in case of a problem, forget calling Paypal. And absolutely NEVER give your credit card number to a supplier, this is just asking for trouble!

Good luck to you all, and I hope this helped you!

Great advice!

hollwod · 08-13-2008, 08:50 PM

Tradekey has too many fraud suppliers, i never want to.
now i only search manufacturers who have real products in China.
Chinachipsource.com --- help you directly find the electronics manufacturers of China.
has 17, 683 chinese manufacturers.

Singh · 10-13-2008, 02:04 PM

Excellent Advice. Thank You . .

mendls_anna · 11-04-2008, 06:34 AM

Finally some useful advice!

Thanks

11-05-2008, 03:19 AM

No risk no gain.
All of our customer( who dont sell on ebay) pay us by WU or TT.

11-06-2008, 10:14 AM

Great Advice.Excellent Post this should be sticked for people just getting into buying and reselling.

07-22-2008, 12:00 AM	#1
Nightbird Junior Member Last Online: 07-22-2008 12:03 AM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS I would like to recommend to everyone here to please, under no circumstance should you pay any chinese suppliers that you do not already know and trust with Western Union, Money Gram or Bank Transfer. This is because there is ABSOLUTELY NO RECOURSE to get your money back from scammers if you pay them this way. And THIS IS WHY these chinese suppliers like to be payed this way, because they know that if any problems arise or if they are out to cheat you, there is no way for you to get your money back..no way, no how, don't even think about it. The law works differently in china than it does here, and the law enforcement their cannot do anything themselves about this because they know the problem is too huge. ALWAYS USE PAYPAL with your credit card to pay anyone in china or anywhere else in the world you don't know and trust. Why? Because with your credit card backing up your payment, you can very easily and quickly get your money back by simply calling your credit card company, telling them what happened, and then requesting a CHARGEBACK. A chargeback means the credit card company will credit your account for the charge, and that's the end of the story. You do not get charged anything for this service, it is part of your credit card agreement to protect you. This is why UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I pay a supplier in china or anywhere else by anything other than a credit card through Paypal. And these scammers will try to lure you into paying them unsafely by offering you lower prices, better shipping, etc... BUT DON'T FALL FOR IT! I know most of us here are just trying to become sellers on ebay and other places and trying to make an honest living selling items, but these scammers in china and elsewhere HAVE NO HEARTS, AND THEY PREY ON OUR WANT AND NEED FOR PRODUCTS TO SELL. They tap into your weakness, desperation, want and need for cheap items to sell for profit, and this is where you must not let your feelings of possible profit overtake you and make you pay them unsafely. Please also remember that Tradekey is filled with legitimate suppliers from china and elsewhere who do accept Paypal and are honest. Simply put into the Tradekey search box "Paypal Accept" and you will see page after page of Paypal accepting suppliers who understand we customers deserve a safe way to pay them. So to recap, NEVER pay any supplier unsafely without a credit card through Paypal, not even for "small" test orders. I keep saying Paypal because I know of no other service that you can use your credit card with that doesn't charge your credit card as a cash advance, such as western union does, which means you have NO PROTECTION. This is why I always use Paypal, even though I'm not thrilled about Paypals service...still it's better than nothing due to being able to do a chargeback -never count on Paypal to get your money back because many times they cannot as they rely on whatever the scammer has in their Paypal account to give to you, and that usually means there is no money to pay you back, so always always call your credit card company for a chargeback in case of a problem, forget calling Paypal. And absolutely NEVER give your credit card number to a supplier, this is just asking for trouble! Good luck to you all, and I hope this helped you!

07-22-2008, 12:21 AM	#2
Postman Top Level Member Last Online: 10-09-2008 09:07 AM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 254	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS possibly the best advice yet I have heard on wld.

07-22-2008, 02:12 AM	#3
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS you simply CANNOT use western union for any business deal I agree. 90% or more are just frauds. If the bank or credit card company is not involved, then avoid at ALL times.

08-13-2008, 08:50 PM	#5
hollwod Junior Member Last Online: 08-13-2008 08:50 PM Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS Tradekey has too many fraud suppliers, i never want to. now i only search manufacturers who have real products in China. Chinachipsource.com --- help you directly find the electronics manufacturers of China. has 17, 683 chinese manufacturers.

10-13-2008, 02:04 PM	#6
Singh Junior Member Last Online: 10-16-2008 01:58 PM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London Posts: 6	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS Excellent Advice. Thank You . .

11-04-2008, 06:34 AM	#7
mendls_anna Junior Member Last Online: 11-09-2008 06:00 AM Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS Finally some useful advice! Thanks

11-05-2008, 03:19 AM	#8
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS No risk no gain. All of our customer( who dont sell on ebay) pay us by WU or TT.

11-06-2008, 10:14 AM	#9
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: HOW NOT TO BE SCAMMED PAYING SUPPLIERS Great Advice.Excellent Post this should be sticked for people just getting into buying and reselling.

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